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  Homeopathy and Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  years ago, the jws did not like modern medicine.

  vaccines and other things were all deemed bad.

  this gave rise to a lot of jws getting into alternative medicines.

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  Lost in the fog

  The late Jan de Vries who was a UK protege of Dr Vogel said in an interview that Vogel's wife had been a Bible Student and later a Jehovah's Witness, but Dr Vogel was not. That's what he said.

  I know a lot of people in my former cong who embraced homeopathy and wouldn't go to a general practitioner.

  But as well as Vogel's medicines quite a number were taking Dr Bach's Flower Remedies until an elder who was into personal research (which also probably explains why he's no longer a JW) discovered that Dr Bach was a spiritualist who asked the spirits to identify which flowers went with which illness, and admitted that he never actually went near the flowers himself.

  Lots of sisters were in a panic after he said it in a public talk one Sunday morning because they all swore by the stuff and had told everyone including their Bible student's to use it. I think they all rushed home from the meeting to bin their collection, and probably got the elders round to exorcise their houses in case of demonic entities hiding in their medicine cabinets in the bathroom. Lol.
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  Missionaries in Mali.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  i don't think the gb at wt will pay for their release like the pope did for the nun.

  they better say their goodbyes.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2022-05-20/3-italians-1-togolese-abducted-in-southern-mali-says-mayor .

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  I don't think the GB at WT will pay for their release like the Pope did for the nun. They better say their goodbyes.

  https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2022-05-20/3-italians-1-togolese-abducted-in-southern-mali-says-mayor
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: remembering the weird and wacky!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you remember some of the weird and wacky stuff emanating from the watchtower society?

  let's make a list from memory that we can use to inject a little humor into our discussions with jehovah's witnesses.

  - venus may be an enormous jurassic park.. - germs don't cause disease.. - no beards allowed.

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  Lost in the fog

  How about the the articles that dancing the Twist was as bad as performing a Ba'al worship fertility dance! Lol. Took me a while to find it.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/library/r1/lp-e/all-publications/watchtower/the-watchtower-1972/september-15, page 567.
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  TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

  big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

  4440 braeburn road.

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  Lost in the fog

  I can remember my mom telling me that at the 1950 Yankee Stadium assembly the speaker (I can't remember who it was now) saying "What would you say if I told you that we have princes here among us today!?" that a sizeable amount of the audience rushed forward to the edge of the stands to peer down into the baseball diamond expecting to see the ancient worthies resurrected there in front of their eyes.

  You think "were they really that gullible or stupid?" and the answer is yes, because it's what their leadership had been telling them for the previous 25+ years.
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  Praying for the Government.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the fact that this year marks queen elizabeth ii having given 70 years of service to the british people.. "i therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, concerning kings and all those who are in high station; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness.”—1 timothy 2:1, 2.. can i ask, in all the years that you were attending jw meetings did you even once hear a prayer of any sort be made from the platform relating to the higher government authorities, especially the offering of thanks for them not clamping down on the organisation like other dictatorial countries?.

  in all my years i don't know of one occasion where i heard a prayer in honour of the king (2 peter 2:17) or her majesty the queen.. another example of straying from what the bible actually said that christians should be doing..

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  Lost in the fog

  I was thinking about the fact that this year marks Queen Elizabeth II having given 70 years of service to the British people.

  "I therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, concerning KINGS and all those who are in HIGH STATION; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness.”—1 Timothy 2:1, 2.

  Can I ask, in all the years that you were attending JW meetings did you even once hear a prayer of any sort be made from the platform relating to the higher government authorities, especially the offering of thanks for them not clamping down on the organisation like other dictatorial countries?

  In all my years I don't know of one occasion where I heard a prayer in honour of the King (2 Peter 2:17) or her Majesty the Queen.

  Another example of straying from what the Bible actually said that Christians should be doing.
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  Books I read when I deprogrammed

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  blondie suggested someone start a thread with a list of books that are valuable to read when exiting the jws.. i will start.. i left the jws way back in the early 70s and didn't actually deprogram until into the 80s.. one of the first books i read was "the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses" by gary and heather botting.

  canadian exjws from calagary.

  an excellent book and one that still resonates with young people today.

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  Lost in the fog

  By the way, books which weren't available for free 6 years ago are available now.

  For example, Apocalypse Delayed, can be downloaded for free here -

  https://www.pdfdrive.com/apocalypse-delayed-the-story-of-jehovahs-witnesses-d187552121.html

  It's possible other books listed in this thread are also available on this site.
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  Memorial invite

  by JoenB75 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.

  it always makes me a bit sad.

  i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.

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  Lost in the fog

  I remember in the old days when the Memorial ended our presiding servant would pour any wine left in the bottle down the drain or flush it down the loo on the principle that it had been blessed and prayed over so could not be treated as ordinary vino. (I never understood why he had no problems flushing such blessed wine down a toilet mind you.)

  Nowadays I understand that all the undrunk wine is poured back into the bottle and returned to whoever bought it, so they can enjoy drinking it at home later in the week.

  If you were ever on hall cleaning the weekend after a Memorial you usually would find the unleavened bread in the wastepaper basket behind the literature cabinet.

  I told that to a friend who belongs to the Roman Catholic church and they were appalled - but that's because they go to the other extreme and believe that it is the actual flesh and blood of Jesus.
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  Lies, Damn Lies.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .

  so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.

  a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.

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  Lost in the fog

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-AAVnXV0

  So apparently Robert Hendricks the spin doctor of the WT society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the WT org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.

  Except, based on the comments of former JW friends on Facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period. A couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.

  But I guess the majority will feel that the eldership was too busy learning how to work Zoom that they didn't have the time to check on the flock.

  I remember that the elders manual used to be called "Shepherd the Flock of God" - so I do wonder how many elders were ever trained in how to shepherd and told that it means long hours of work and actually involves contacting people?

  
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  Minions - new Smurfs?

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a friend of mine told me that her witness relative from west coast had reacted to minions (child animation) in a same way that some jdubs reacted to smurfs.. aka she claimed that minions are "from satan".. has anyone else heard this?.

  well i guess harry potter, lotr etc has received similar recption....nothing new in that sense..

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  Lost in the fog

  I have heard this critism of satanic minions among JWs here in the UK. Mind you it was from the same JW sister who used to quote the loony David Icke on her Facebook page, so a lot of the congregation would have given her ideas a wide berth anyway. Mind you David Icke's lunacy is no better or worse than that of the Watchtower's.
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  Turning up The Insanity To 11

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so a jw elder acquaintance sent me an email "encouraging" me to return to the organization, including this little nugget of a quote from today's wt session,*** w21 november p. 23 par.

  11 how strong will your faith be?

  ***learn to trust those whom jehovah and jesus trust.

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  Lost in the fog

  It's similar to asking them "what religion does God belong to?"

  God, assuming there is one, is surely accessible by the whole world if they want to talk to him.

  But the JWs will go to great lengths to try and convince you that J-God must only belong to their religion and no-one else's. He's their God so "hands off you can't have him. He's mine!" Like squabbling children in the school playground. Lol.